Subject: less version 177
From: Hakkarainen Kimmo <h108373@cc.tut.fi>
To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi (Linux activists)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 91 12:59:21 EET

Hello,

I found sources for less 177 in garbo.uwasa.fi. I compiled it and
noticed it being better than the version we already have (0.97).
I will put both sources and binaries in nic.funet.fi. I hope
those will show up in couple of days.

BTW less 177 supports editor-escape (or what should it be called)
and I changed the default editor to be emacs not "vi". If you
have any questions, please feel fre to ask me. 

PS. Merry christmas to everyone.
-- 
Kimmo Hakkarainen (h108373@cc.tut.fi)

   Fire, walk with me.

Subject: less version 177
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1991 17:29:19 +0200
From: Ari Lemmke <arl@zen.cs.hut.fi>
To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
In-Reply-To: Hakkarainen Kimmo's message of Fri, 20 Dec 91 12:59:21 EET 
<9112201059.AA09690@cc.tut.fi>


Kimmo Hakkarainen writes:
>I found sources for less 177 in garbo.uwasa.fi. I compiled it and
>noticed it being better than the version we already have (0.97).
>I will put both sources and binaries in nic.funet.fi. I hope
>those will show up in couple of days.

	Available in nic.funet.fi:/pub/OS/Linux/bin

		less-177.bin.tar.Z
		less-177.src.tar.Z

	I really like version numbers within names ...

	arl

	PS.	merry Xmas ...

Subject: Re:  less version 177
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 91 03:24:10 +1100
From: Bruce Evans <bde@runx.oz.au>
To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi

>I found sources for less 177 in garbo.uwasa.fi. I compiled it and
>noticed it being better than the version we already have (0.97).

I think version 0.97 is much better than 177 :-), mainly because my
version of it has hacks to read compressed files. I seem to remember
that the author of less strongly objected to such impurities, but
when your disk has a lot of compressed files it's nice to be able to
say "less *" and not get garbage or useless warnings about binary
files. I looked at putting decompression in version 177 but the
changes in buffering stdin made things too difficult considering
that 0.97 already works.

Bruce

Subject: Re: less v1.77
Date:     Fri, 20 Dec 91 19:50:59 PST
From: "Jim Winstead Jr." <jwinstea@jarthur.Claremont.edu>
To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi

You can set up a small shell script to view compressed files via less, as
well.  I have one called zless that is simply 'zcat $* | less', and it works
wonders.

Does the less v1.77 available include regular-expression searching?  When
I tried compiling less v1.77, I found that I had to replace the included
regex.[ch] with ones from another GNU utility.

Speaking of GNU utilities, someone mentioned making find 2.1 available,
because it was the "latest and greatest".  I looked on prep.ai.mit.edu,
the official distribution point of GNU stuff, and it has find-3.2.tar.Z.
Is there any interest in getting this ported to Linux?

Has anyone had any luck porting gawk more successfully?  The current port
fails to pass the test programs included with the current GNU distribution,
and when I've tried to build that version (3.?), it fails on eval.c due to
error 32 or something nice and cryptic like that.  I would assume it's trying
to compile floating-point stuff, and since I lack a math coprocessor....

My main interest in getting a (better-)working gawk is to use awf as a
replacement for nroff, at least until some maniac ports gtroff (which
requires porting g++ first :)
---
Jim Winstead Jr. (CSci '95)    3 "We are only immortal
Harvey Mudd College            3  for a limited time..
jwinstea@jarthur.Claremont.EDU 3  when we are young." 
Disclaimer: Mine, not theirs!  3  -Rush, Dreamline

Subject: Re: less v1.77
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 91 15:25:34 +1100
From: Bruce Evans <bde@runx.oz.au>
To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi

Jim Winstead Jr. writes:

>You can set up a small shell script to view compressed files via less, as
>well.  I have one called zless that is simply 'zcat $* | less', and it works

This doesn't work so well for browsing through a lot of files. Working
through the files in linear order is not so good either, but my system
is fast enough to skip through files (even compressed) with the N and P
keys - in less 0.97. Another thing I didn't like about 177 was the change
on these keys to be like more (:n and something or other).

>Speaking of GNU utilities, someone mentioned making find 2.1 available,
>because it was the "latest and greatest".  I looked on prep.ai.mit.edu,
>the official distribution point of GNU stuff, and it has find-3.2.tar.Z.

Perhaps someone got the version numbers confused. 3.2 has been out for a
couple of months, and 3.1 was around for a long time before that. I have
3.2 on Minix.

BTW, bash-1.10 broke updatedb in find, because

	x=y export x

fails to set x. updatedb has a statement like this to set the PATH. Isn't
this supposed to work? It worked for bash-1.08 and works for ksh on ISC
Unix. It doesn't work for bash-1.10 on Minix or ISC Unix.

Bruce

Subject: remove linux.tex ... FTP ... mailing lists .. news groups
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1991 02:33:17 +0200
From: Ari Lemmke <arl@zen.cs.hut.fi>
To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
In-Reply-To: Linus Benedict Torvalds's message of Wed, 
25 Dec 1991 18:09:12 +0200 < 199112251609.AA08539@kruuna.helsinki.fi>


Linus:
>I got a request that the ftp-sites shouldn't contain some very
>out-of-date information: Linux.tex was the file mentioned ...

	I removed Linux.tex from nic.funet.fi (actually all old
	versions are available from directory 'testing' .. that is
	not visible althought .. possible to see it in file 'ls-laR').

	It's possible to FTP put stuff to nic.funet.fi ;-) to
	either main directory or 'incoming' directory ...

	I prefer the authors put their work to FTP sites like
	nic.funet.fi and release them on mailing list.
	For those who don't have FTP, there's

		'mail-server@nic.funet.fi'

	so, everyone is served (just send a mail to it with body
	containing 'help'). FTP site is nic.funet.fi:/pub/OS/Linux

	We should limit sources on mailing list (just the traffic
	is getting BIGger) .. and the FTP users of nic.funet.fi won't
	get sources sent to the mailing list .. because I don't have
	time (and will) to take sources out of mails (sorry) ..

	It might also be time to start comp.os.linux? Who's willing
	to handle voting etc.? We might 'steal' comp.os.misc too ...

	I would like to spit the mailing list to two parts
	'users' i.e. activists and 'hackers' .. those who
	contribute patches and create new code instead of
	asking quite trivial questions i.e. like
	'why my PC won't work?', 'how should I partition my
	20 MB disk?' etc.

	Comments?

	arl