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From: Loban Rahman <loban@enigma.caltech.edu>
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I was wondering if Naughtilus will have a trash can (or the equivalent)
similar to that of Windows or Mac OS. I find it useful to delete files and
then later, realize I made a mistake and be able to undelete them.
This topic was discussed before in this list, but not in light of
Naughtilus, I think.
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If this happens, one feature I would like to see that I have not seen in any
filemanager, is the ability to specify a purge age for the trashcan. So for
instance, any file that has been in the trashcan for over a week is
automatically deleted for good.
Just a thought,
-Harry
Loban Rahman wrote:
> I was wondering if Naughtilus will have a trash can (or the equivalent)
> similar to that of Windows or Mac OS. I find it useful to delete files and
> then later, realize I made a mistake and be able to undelete them.
>
> This topic was discussed before in this list, but not in light of
> Naughtilus, I think.
>
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I would certainly want a Nautilus trash can to be optionally displayed.
I usually either right-mouseclick and select delete from the context
menu or simply select a desktop icon and hit the delete key.
One of the Window$ adjustments I have always made is turning off the
undelete feature. When I delete a file, I want to know it's really
gone and the respective hard drive space freed.
Harry Johnson wrote:
>
> If this happens, one feature I would like to see that I have not seen in any
> filemanager, is the ability to specify a purge age for the trashcan. So for
> instance, any file that has been in the trashcan for over a week is
> automatically deleted for good.
>
> Just a thought,
> -Harry
>
> Loban Rahman wrote:
>
> > I was wondering if Naughtilus will have a trash can (or the equivalent)
> > similar to that of Windows or Mac OS. I find it useful to delete files and
> > then later, realize I made a mistake and be able to undelete them.
> >
> > This topic was discussed before in this list, but not in light of
> > Naughtilus, I think.
> >
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Loban Rahman <loban@enigma.caltech.edu> writes:
> I was wondering if Naughtilus will have a trash can (or the equivalent)
> similar to that of Windows or Mac OS. I find it useful to delete files and
> then later, realize I made a mistake and be able to undelete them.
>
> This topic was discussed before in this list, but not in light of
> Naughtilus, I think.
>
Nautilus will support a Trash-type concept that provides undelete.
It will probably purge periodically. Maybe you will be able to specify
a maximum amount to keep around too, in which case setting this
amoung to 0 would effectively disable undelete.
Personally, I think anyone who disables undelete is crazy, you can
always pick "empty trash" if you _really_ want to delete the file, and
having the extra confirmation step is a good thing.
- Maciej
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Yes, but deleteing it 4 times is anoying.
delete. "do you want to delete?" yes.
empty trash. "do you want to empty?" yes.
takes far to long. one verification is enough for me. :)
anyway, being able to disable it would be a very good thing.
Also, we need something other then Trash Can. Gota be unique. :)
Mac=Trash Can
Win=Recycle Bin
KDE=Trash (rather unorigional. :)
How about "Rubbish Heap". (or maybe "Compost Heap") The heap could grow as
you throw stuff onto it. :)
On 27 Feb 2000, Maciej Stachowiak wrote:
> Loban Rahman <loban@enigma.caltech.edu> writes:
>
> > I was wondering if Naughtilus will have a trash can (or the equivalent)
> > similar to that of Windows or Mac OS. I find it useful to delete files and
> > then later, realize I made a mistake and be able to undelete them.
> >
> > This topic was discussed before in this list, but not in light of
> > Naughtilus, I think.
> >
>
> Nautilus will support a Trash-type concept that provides undelete.
>
> It will probably purge periodically. Maybe you will be able to specify
> a maximum amount to keep around too, in which case setting this
> amoung to 0 would effectively disable undelete.
>
> Personally, I think anyone who disables undelete is crazy, you can
> always pick "empty trash" if you _really_ want to delete the file, and
> having the extra confirmation step is a good thing.
>
> - Maciej
>
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on 2/27/00 9:26 PM, bob@thestuff.net at bob@thestuff.net wrote:
> Yes, but deleteing it 4 times is anoying.
> delete. "do you want to delete?" yes.
> empty trash. "do you want to empty?" yes.
> takes far to long. one verification is enough for me. :)
> anyway, being able to disable it would be a very good thing.
The first confirmation is totally unnecessary if it's going to go into the
Trash. I know Windows has this all messed up, with a combination of
confirmations and behavior that are guaranteed to not quite do the right
thing.
The Mac model is better. There is no "delete", only "Move to Trash". There's
no confirmation to move something to the trash, since it's not a dangerous
operation. There is a confirmation on emptying the trash, since it is a
dangerous operation. The confirmation can be overridden (by holding down the
option key when selecting the menu item).
One thing missing from the Mac model that I've always wanted is the ability
to individually delete from the disk items in the Trash, so you don't have
to empty all the Trash just to really get rid of that one darn item that you
really don't want on your disk. Hopefully we will be able to have this
feature in Nautilus when we implement the Trash.
John Sullivan
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I would still want the option to have items that I dragged to the trashcan
be deleted immediately without confirmation.
John Sullivan wrote:
>
> on 2/27/00 9:26 PM, bob@thestuff.net at bob@thestuff.net wrote:
>
> > Yes, but deleteing it 4 times is anoying.
> > delete. "do you want to delete?" yes.
> > empty trash. "do you want to empty?" yes.
> > takes far to long. one verification is enough for me. :)
> > anyway, being able to disable it would be a very good thing.
>
> The first confirmation is totally unnecessary if it's going to go into the
> Trash. I know Windows has this all messed up, with a combination of
> confirmations and behavior that are guaranteed to not quite do the right
> thing.
>
> The Mac model is better. There is no "delete", only "Move to Trash". There's
> no confirmation to move something to the trash, since it's not a dangerous
> operation. There is a confirmation on emptying the trash, since it is a
> dangerous operation. The confirmation can be overridden (by holding down the
> option key when selecting the menu item).
>
> One thing missing from the Mac model that I've always wanted is the ability
> to individually delete from the disk items in the Trash, so you don't have
> to empty all the Trash just to really get rid of that one darn item that you
> really don't want on your disk. Hopefully we will be able to have this
> feature in Nautilus when we implement the Trash.
>
> John Sullivan
>
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