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From: Gianluca Montecchi <gm518464@silab.dsi.unimi.it>
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Subject: Database for gnome
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Does anydoby working on a database program for the gnome project ?
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Subject: Re: Database for gnome
X-Windows: Putting new limits on productivity.
> Does anydoby working on a database program for the gnome project ?
I would like to see a nice frontend to SQL for Gnome.
Are you interested?
Miguel.
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I am interested, but for which database?
I have been considering Beagle Sql.
http://www.beaglesql.org
-Darren
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X-Windows: Don't get frustrated without it.
> I am interested, but for which database?
>
> I have been considering Beagle Sql.
>
> http://www.beaglesql.org
Isn't sql standard?
If it is not, we can just come up with a backend thing.
Miguel.
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> Isn't sql standard?
>
> If it is not, we can just come up with a backend thing.
>
> Miguel.
SQL is a standard, but the backend isn't. Which leads to ODBC. Which free
dbs have ODBC support?
Darren
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Following up on myself, let me show which databases are supported by the
perl DBI framework:
DB2, Fulcrum, Informix, Ingres, ODBC (i.e. the whole of the ODBC
alternative proposal), Oracle, Postgres, QBase, Solid, Sybase, XBase,
pNET (proxy to any DBI compatible db on another machine), Msql, Mysql,
Empress.
See any CPAN mirror or
http://www.hermetica.com/technologia/perl/DBI/index.html
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On Fri, 6 Feb 1998, Bart Schuller wrote:
> Following up on myself, let me show which databases are supported by the
> perl DBI framework:
>
> DB2, Fulcrum, Informix, Ingres, ODBC (i.e. the whole of the ODBC
> alternative proposal), Oracle, Postgres, QBase, Solid, Sybase, XBase,
> pNET (proxy to any DBI compatible db on another machine), Msql, Mysql,
> Empress.
>
I've never used DBI (although I'm a 500 line a day perl addict :)) --
would it likely be possible to pull in these DBI methods and export them
to all various apps using CORBA or something? Note that ODBC is supported
by more than just "databases" (i.e. access) -- it is also used by
everything from spreadsheets to web servers.
I guess what I'm really driving at is that many people don't use perl; If
we were to use DBI as a base for a generic database backend, we would need
to make it langauge independent.
I will say that the GNUStep Database Library stuff sounds intriguing --
does anyone know what's going on with GNUStep? Is it in limbo or what?
Patrick
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On Feb 6, J. Patrick Narkinsky wrote
> I've never used DBI (although I'm a 500 line a day perl addict :)) --
> would it likely be possible to pull in these DBI methods and export them
> to all various apps using CORBA or something? Note that ODBC is supported
> by more than just "databases" (i.e. access) -- it is also used by
> everything from spreadsheets to web servers.
Well, I was thinking more of a specific SQL interactive query tool. If
you are thinking of a generic Gnome SQL API, then you would indeed need
to wrap it up again into something language-neutral (CORBA comes to mind
there:-)
The problem with all database interfaces is that none of them
standardize the protocol going over the wire. When I began reading up on
ODBC, that was a shocking revelation: it only defines entry points in a
(shared) library.
So if you want to make a server (or client) which can talk to four
different databases, you'd need the development libraries for all four
of them on that one machine.
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Subject: Re: Database for gnome
X-Windows: The Cutting Edge of Obsolescence.
> The problem with all database interfaces is that none of them
> standardize the protocol going over the wire. When I began reading up on
> ODBC, that was a shocking revelation: it only defines entry points in a
> (shared) library.
Ok.
Well, then I would preffer if the Database front end would be designed
to plug directly into the free databases, this probably includes
Postgress.
We can leave the task of talking to other databases to contributors.
But we should target the free code
best wishes,
miguel.
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On Fri, 6 Feb 1998, Miguel de Icaza wrote:
>
> > Does anydoby working on a database program for the gnome project ?
>
> I would like to see a nice frontend to SQL for Gnome.
>
> Are you interested?
Of course, also if my first idea was another thing.
Gianluca
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