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I'll try (in vain) one more time to find out someone else it working
on it, so I don't have to. :)
Is anyone listening working on any kind of drag 'n drop for gtk? Has
anyone even thought about it, who would like to talk?
If not, foo on you all... I'll just go write the code myself. So
there!:)
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From: Christoph Hoegl <darkwing@bsdd.regensburg.com>
> I'll try (in vain) one more time to find out someone else it working
> on it, so I don't have to. :)
>
> Is anyone listening working on any kind of drag 'n drop for gtk? Has
> anyone even thought about it, who would like to talk?
>
> If not, foo on you all... I'll just go write the code myself. So
> there! :)
>
> --
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I already thought about that topic but was held to go forward on
it (still struggling with the intr. of Gtk:-) )
Perhaps you have a look @ DnD
(I think you could find it by searching for Offix and DnD
(xemacs and some other apps already support it))
There are sure better ways but last time i had a look on it it
was pretty nice.
regards,
Christoph
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already, other things like Webbrowser and Spreadsheet are in the
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From: Owen Taylor <owt1@cornell.edu>
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I took a look the offix DND stuff and it seemed pretty reasonable.
(For those who don't know where to look,
http://leb.net/~offix/
Download the dnd library version 1.0 - the documentation there is more
recent then the stuff on the web page)
I had a minor concern or two about the standard, for instance,
it says:
DndText - A null terminated string containing valid text characters.
What's a valid text character? How does the receiving application know
what encoding the text is in? But I don't think these are show-stopping
problems.
The implementation doesn't look to bad, once more comprehensive
selection handling is implemented. Another event type will have to be
added to gtk/gdk for handling the appropriate ClientMessage
events. The interface could be pretty simple:
gtk_widget_enable_drag
gtk_signal_connect("drag",..)
gtk_signal_connect("drop",...)
I still intend to write the selection handling stuff, but I might well
not have a chance for a week or two. After that's done I'd be happy to
implement DND on top of it. But if you (Otto) need it very soon, you'd
probably be better off doing the work yourself. If you plan on doing
some work on the selection mechanism, let me know and I'll pass along
some preliminary thoughts I've had about the design.
Regards,
Owen
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At the moment, I have a simple icon widget... now I'm about to write
an iconbox widget to hold all of my new nifty icons.
One thing I'd like to be able to do is move the icons about in the
iconbox... a simple drag operation. I -think- this necessitates a new
event to tell widgets they're being dragged (on or about).
Does anyone see any reason I shouldn't go ahead and start hacking the
event code to make it happen?
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Hi,
Does Gtk already support drag and drop ? If not, are there any plans to
do so ? The offix drag and drop seems to be good and can probably be
integrated into Gtk. Is anyone working on it ?
-Arun
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On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, Arun Sharma wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does Gtk already support drag and drop ? If not, are there any plans to
> do so ? The offix drag and drop seems to be good and can probably be
> integrated into Gtk. Is anyone working on it ?
>
just quoting the TODO list from the last gtk+ dist:
>
> -OffiX drag and drop support
>
this is from the TODO list, and it's not implemented yet, but anyways
the TODO list states, that peter (and spencer) already took D&D support
into consideration...
> -Arun
>
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from Arun Sharma on Tue, Jun 10, 1997 at 06:15:47PM -0400
On Tue, Jun 10, 1997 at 06:15:47PM -0400, Arun Sharma wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does Gtk already support drag and drop ? If not, are there any plans to
> do so ? The offix drag and drop seems to be good and can probably be
> integrated into Gtk. Is anyone working on it ?
I had intended on doing it, if no one had before me.
Someone else (Owen?) on this list said they might have time to work on
it before too long.
I think the answer is, if you have the time and ability go for it. :)
Send patches to the list...
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On Wed, 11 Jun 1997, Tim Janik wrote:
> > Does Gtk already support drag and drop ? If not, are there any plans to
> > do so ? The offix drag and drop seems to be good and can probably be
> > integrated into Gtk. Is anyone working on it ?
> >
>
> just quoting the TODO list from the last gtk+ dist:
>
> >
> > -OffiX drag and drop support
> >
>
> this is from the TODO list, and it's not implemented yet, but anyways
> the TODO list states, that peter (and spencer) already took D&D support
> into consideration...
Hmm... I have some very prelim patches (i.e. you can turn on
gdk_show_events and see it telling you it is starting a drag, and I think
I had it sending the drop events at one point :-) but I didn't see any
specific framework for D&D support in gdk/gtk. If you know what that
consideration for D&D was, please let me know.
-- Elliot http://www.redhat.com/
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Subject: Re: [gtk-list] Re: Gtk and Drag and drop
From: Arun Sharma <arun@home.com>
On Wed, 11 Jun 1997 09:43:58 -0400 (EDT), Elliot Lee wrote:
e> Hmm... I have some very prelim patches (i.e. you can turn
e> on gdk_show_events and see it telling you it is starting a
e> drag, and I think I had it sending the drop events at one
e> point :-) but I didn't see any specific framework for D&D
e> support in gdk/gtk.
There is an already existing drag and drop protocol, which is used by
the OffiX suite. I'm investigating if I can incorporate the same
protocol in gtk, while preserving interoperability with OffiX.
If I'm successful, I'll send the patches to the mailing list.
e> If you know what that consideration for D&D was, please
e> let me know.
Just wanted to imitate some of the Netscape address book's (yet to be
properly done) drag and drop functionality.
-Arun
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On Wed, 11 Jun 1997, Arun Sharma wrote:
> e> Hmm... I have some very prelim patches (i.e. you can turn
> e> on gdk_show_events and see it telling you it is starting a
> e> drag, and I think I had it sending the drop events at one
> e> point :-) but I didn't see any specific framework for D&D
> e> support in gdk/gtk.
>
> There is an already existing drag and drop protocol, which is used by
> the OffiX suite. I'm investigating if I can incorporate the same
> protocol in gtk, while preserving interoperability with OffiX.
I'm making it use OffiX already. If someone has docs on the Motif D&D
protocol, I'll try to incorporate that too.
I have most of the gdk side of things done now - I can drop an object from
the 'dndtest' program to testgtk and see the data.
> If I'm successful, I'll send the patches to the mailing list.
>
> e> If you know what that consideration for D&D was, please
> e> let me know.
>
> Just wanted to imitate some of the Netscape address book's (yet to be
> properly done) drag and drop functionality.
Hmm, that's not what I was asking about. The person I was replying to made
it sound like P&S had already put in some framework for D&D, but I
couldn't see any. Do you know if they have anything in place already for
D&D?
Thanks,
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Subject: Re: [gtk-list] Re: Gtk and Drag and drop
From: Arun Sharma <arun@home.com>
On Wed, 11 Jun 1997 20:47:01 -0400 (EDT), Elliot Lee wrote:
e> I'm making it use OffiX already. If someone has docs on the
e> Motif D&D protocol, I'll try to incorporate that too.
e> I have most of the gdk side of things done now - I can drop
e> an object from the 'dndtest' program to testgtk and see the
e> data.
Can you send me the patches ? I have gtk+970606.tar.gz. BTW, the
automake stuff doesn't work. Even a straight ./configure and make
didn't work -- make doesn't know how to make libgtk.la.
Thanks!
-Arun